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IDLookout

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I find it odd that some people on the BB-777 threads on FB (Well, there's the reason right there lol) actually defend scalpers, saying they are just making a living and doing what they can do. While that part may be true, it doesn't change the fact that they are scummy, money grubbing dudes probably still living in their mom's basement waiting for that overdue pizza delivery that mom is going to pay for anyway.
 

Reli

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I find it odd that some people on the BB-777 threads on FB (Well, there's the reason right there lol) actually defend scalpers, saying they are just making a living and doing what they can do. While that part may be true, it doesn't change the fact that they are scummy, money grubbing dudes probably still living in their mom's basement waiting for that overdue pizza delivery that mom is going to pay for anyway.

Well, I have a couple I ordered for friends, and if they don't pay up in a few weeks, I'll be relisting them on Ebay. What else am I supposed to do?
 
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IDLookout

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Well, I have a couple I ordered for friends, and if they don't pay up in a few weeks, I'll be relisting them on Ebay. What else am I supposed to do?

These sellers have "sold" units before they're even shipped.....

That's different, that's "Scalping".
 

Transistorized

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It's completely normal for us to feel the way we do. When you mark an item up 100% or 200% over what you paid, you:

1: never wanted the product. You wanted the profit.
2: prevented a collector who wanted one from being able to get one.
3: are preying on collectors and, in some cases, insulting them by asking way over retail.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing illegal about this. It's just considered by some to be morally and ethically wrong. But since when did that ever keep someone from trying to make money? And why should they care what anyone else's opinion is? Particularly if this type of behavior has been a rewarding process for them. I see both sides however, I am on the side of not appreciating it. Especially if you are intentionally creating a shortage that prevents someone who truly wanted one from being able to get one at the regular price. This is nothing new. It's the reason some have a purchase limit on items. Especially in retail.

People do this with everything around here. For example: Every 2 years I like to replace my outdoor Christmas lights before they start becoming problematic. Especially the ones that go on the house. Right after the the Holidays, I go to Wal-Mart to take advantage of the discounts for the next year. Last year, I ran into a lady that was in the aisle I was in. I was on my phone talking to my wife to make sure I was looking at the right type of lights. This lady was on the other end looking at something else mind you. When she heard my conversation and noticed I was interested in that particular light set, she flew over there and started shovelling 4 boxes at a time in her cart. I only needed two but her intention was to take all they had left. Since she was reaching over in front of me I flew in there when she was tossing one of her loads in the cart and snatched the two I NEEDED for next year before she took them all. I knew exactly what she was doing. She was going to save them for next year and then sell them online for a profit when the prices were higher.

I just shrug my shoulders at this type of behavior and move on because, to each their own. In this case, if someone wants to pay $2,400 for a founders edition with $130 shipping, more power to them. Furthermore, they are encouraging this.

Personally, I do not reward this type of behavior with my hard earned money. Just like I am not rewarding car manufacturers by buying their overpriced junk that you can't even work on, doesn't hold up and, for 2027, uses AI to determine whether it will ALLOW you to drive the vehicle you....???OWN???...but I digress.

The time has come to start showing others the "power of the purse" as the saying goes. Vote with your wallet. It matters more than you think.
 
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Tinman

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It's completely normal for us to feel the way we do. When you mark an item up 100% or 200% over what you paid, you:

1: never wanted the product. You wanted the profit.
2: prevented a collector who wanted one from being able to get one.
3: are preying on collectors and, in some cases, insulting them by asking way over retail.
4. are driving up the price for the next person (buyer and/or seller).

I agree, there's nothing wrong with what they're doing.
It's up to the buyer to decide if it's worth it to them.
With my luck, I'd try selling one of these, the bottom would fall out and I'd end up having to sell it for less than I paid.
 
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MattWnAZ

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It's completely normal for us to feel the way we do. When you mark an item up 100% or 200% over what you paid, you:

1: never wanted the product. You wanted the profit.
2: prevented a collector who wanted one from being able to get one.
3: are preying on collectors and, in some cases, insulting them by asking way over retail.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing illegal about this. It's just considered by some to be morally and ethically wrong. But since when did that ever keep someone from trying to make money? And why should they care what anyone else's opinion is? Particularly if this type of behavior has been a rewarding process for them. I see both sides however, I am on the side of not appreciating it. Especially if you are intentionally creating a shortage that prevents someone who truly wanted one from being able to get one at the regular price. This is nothing new. It's the reason some have a purchase limit on items. Especially in retail.

People do this with everything around here. For example: Every 2 years I like to replace my outdoor Christmas lights before they start becoming problematic. Especially the ones that go on the house. Right after the the Holidays, I go to Wal-Mart to take advantage of the discounts for the next year. Last year, I ran into a lady that was in the aisle I was in. I was on my phone talking to my wife to make sure I was looking at the right type of lights. This lady was on the other end looking at something else mind you. When she heard my conversation and noticed I was interested in that particular light set, she flew over there and started shovelling 4 boxes at a time in her cart. I only needed two but her intention was to take all they had left. Since she was reaching over in front of me I flew in there when she was tossing one of her loads in the cart and snatched the two I NEEDED for next year before she took them all. I knew exactly what she was doing. She was going to save them for next year and then sell them online for a profit when the prices were higher.

I just shrug my shoulders at this type of behavior and move on because, to each their own. In this case, if someone wants to pay $2,400 for a founders edition with $130 shipping, more power to them. Furthermore, they are encouraging this.

Personally, I do not reward this type of behavior with my hard earned money. Just like I am not rewarding car manufacturers by buying their overpriced junk that you can't even work on, doesn't hold up and, for 2027, uses AI to determine whether it will ALLOW you to drive the vehicle you....???OWN???...but I digress.

The time has come to start showing others the "power of the purse" as the saying goes. Vote with your wallet. It matters more than you think.
It's like the people that go to Record Store Day and buy up all of the highly coveted vinyl, then immediately list them for sale online(at a much higher price). Yeah, there's nothing to stop them from doing it....but it just shows bad character. It's their right to do it, but its my right to consider them scummy for doing it.
 

Eddy

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It's completely normal for us to feel the way we do. When you mark an item up 100% or 200% over what you paid, you:

1: never wanted the product. You wanted the profit.
2: prevented a collector who wanted one from being able to get one.
3: are preying on collectors and, in some cases, insulting them by asking way over retail.

I just shrug my shoulders at this type of behavior and move on because, to each their own. In this case, if someone wants to pay $2,400 for a founders edition with $130 shipping, more power to them. Furthermore, they are encouraging this.

Personally, I do not reward this type of behavior with my hard earned money. Just like I am not rewarding car manufacturers by buying their overpriced junk that you can't even work on, doesn't hold up and, for 2027, uses AI to determine whether it will ALLOW you to drive the vehicle you....???OWN???...but I digress.

The time has come to start showing others the "power of the purse" as the saying goes. Vote with your wallet. It matters more than you think.
People are not willing to work anymore , just try scamming , phishing people.
We shall not give into this and pay this kind of hard earned money to these people.
 

mellymelsr

Member (SA)
Clearly you have never ordered something from overseas. It is and always was the sellers responsibility to at least know the basics. Unlike you suggest tax is no rocket science. At least for most people it‘s not.

What about shipping costs? He was able to figure those out for every country. And why? Because that uncertainty would have kept people from ordering. But now tax suddently is none of his business from you point.

From the total numbers it is obvious that thousands of people ordered from outside the US.

What you demand - not suggest - is that every single one of them is resposible to find out by themselves instead of the one person who prospers of all that. With little to no info given. Good for you, I respect that.

My only point was why all the talking about ,you guys‘ and the ,community‘ has a different ring now for me.
I have collected boomboxes and shoes for over 20 years and you assume I've never made an overseas purchase? ......you should not ASSume. At all. Know what you are buying and figure the taxes for yourself. It's your money. Protect it.
 

dubout

Member (SA)
How do you not understand this?
you should not ASSume.
Wow. You are getting pretty worked up about this, attacking me personal and all.

This never was about you. My point was that all the yapping about 'community' had zero value when hundered of questions about price structure were simply ignored. "figure the taxes for yourself"?! No problem. But then don't talk about community all day if you only want their money, advertise your product to friends and family but go silent when questions need to be answered.

There are up to hundereds of dollars on the line for each individual buyer asking these questions. And not ONE word from the people responsible. No gesture of help, nothing. I still believe that I am allowed to percieve that as arrogant, yell at me what you want.

I understand as a consultant to this project you might feel the need to protect Rob and staff. Doesn't make you automatically right.

Funny still that in the end, a youtuber had to point out major technical flaws of the box, not the consultants.
 
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Netsurfer_x1

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When my old D8443 (Frankenstein) heavily modded boombox got stolen, back in 2018, I was pretty devastated. Couple years later, looking for a replacement at a time when there were no powerful boomboxes being made, I decided to make my own. Now I'm pretty lazy, so not going to design one from scratch. I looked for components that I could assemble. After much research and some luck finding speakers at a flea market, I created what I call Frankenstein 2.1. At the heart of it is a Pioneer FH-X830BHS head unit that can be configured for 2.1 mode (Front L/R + mono Sub output). I can't say enough good things about this Pioneer HU. It has a ton of settings to configure it just about any way you want. It also has SLA (source level adjustment) that lets you set the gain for each source so that they all sound similar in volume when switching. Super nice... Plus comes with a Remote!

I found a pair of stock Radio Shack speakers (Minimus-5) made around '79 that still sound crisp and clear, plus a Samsung passive subwoofer from another flea market. I had a box made that matched the size of those RadShack speakers; my wife stained it a similar color. I added a lithium iron phosphate rechargeable battery and a solar charger controller, and made the speakers detachable. Added 2 FM antennas, internal mic (for bluetooth phone calls), Sirius/XM receiver module, and a cool zip-wired bottle opener. It really does rock, and the sub gives it some pretty deep bass. It'll go all evening on a charge, and also runs on 12VDC.

But I'm really looking forward to receiving my Black/Gold BB-777. If it winds up sounding similar to mine, in terms of volume and tone, then I plan to add a wireless line level set to them for a sort of TWS-type of configuration; Frank on L channel and 777 R channel. :) The two of them together? Dayum!
That is just pure pornography!
 

mellymelsr

Member (SA)
Wow. You are getting pretty worked up about this, attacking me personal and all.

This never was about you. My point was that all the yapping about 'community' had zero value when hundered of questions about price structure were simply ignored. "figure the taxes for yourself"?! No problem. But then don't talk about community all day if you only want their money, advertise your product to friends and family but go silent when questions need to be answered.

There are up to hundereds of dollars on the line for each individual buyer asking these questions. And not ONE word from the people responsible. No gesture of help, nothing. I still believe that I am allowed to percieve that as arrogant, yell at me what you want.

I understand as a consultant to this project you might feel the need to protect Rob and staff. Doesn't make you automatically right.

Funny still that in the end, a youtuber had to point out major technical flaws of the box, not the consultants.
Not worked up at all. Questions were answered calmly yet succinctly. Also, there is nothing about your questions that Bumpboxx needs protection from. Taxes and VAT aren't their concern. I've happily answered every product question. If you have any I'm happy to answer them as well. You seem worked up. This is light entertainment. Enjoy life a little more.