What I have learned about buying radios in Japan

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Lasonic TRC-920

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What I have learned about buying radios in Japan.

Below is some information that I wanted to share with everyone if you are trying to purchase radios from Yahoo Japan.

First, many members have turned me onto a service they use called “Japan Auction Center” http://www.japanauctioncenter.com/

I did not use this company. I have been told they do a very good job, but the down side is you have to pay for their services. As I mentioned, I have not used them so I’m hoping some other members will chime in and talk about their accounts with this company. From what I was able to assess on my own, is that if your trying to buy a radio from Japan because it is “So Cheap” the savings can be quickly erased when you add up this companies fee’s and shipping costs. However, if there is a particular model radio you just can’t find anywhere else and you and want it regardless of price, this may be a way to go.

When I set out on this mission, I thought I had some things going in my favor. Number 1, I’m in Japan and have a Japanese mailing address! I’m actually in Okinawa not mainland Japan so, I had to check to see if the seller was willing to ship to Okinawa. Many were not!

The biggest problem I faced was the most obvious, the language barrier. Yahoo Japan can not be translated into English through Google Translate http://translate.google.com/ . Technically, you can translate the front page, but once you log into your account, it no longer works. So in order to over come this, I had to copy and paste everything I wanted to read into another page with Google Translate on it to basically stumble around in the dark until I figured out how to move around the site. This took many hours to figure out just the basics, how to set up an account, how to log in, where to check my mail, how to bid on items and how to contact sellers. This was very hard on the mind and really wore me down.

With all of this, I still needed to get help from some of my wife’s Japanese coworkers.

After finding a radio I wanted and communicating with the seller by converting English into Japanese with Google Translate and getting a seller that would ship to Okinawa, I had to figure out how to pay for the auction I won. This was not as simple as I thought. The site shows “Visa” symbols on it, so I just assumed I could pay with a credit card at the end of the process.

Into order to make payments on Yahoo Japan, you need to have an “Easy Pay” account. In order to fill out the application you have to be able to write in Japanese characters!!!! I tried the copy and paste trick with Google Translate but that was a no go.

Yahoo Japan does not take Pay Pal either.

I went to my wife’s work again and with the help of her coworker we went into the site to try to set up an account. She had to use a computer that was set up to toggle the keyboard between English and Japanese characters in order to fill out the required fields. I found it interesting that she was struggling to do the conversions.

Fields that required Japanese characters were First and Last Name as well as Password’s and a security questions and answers.

While some of this I was able to do via cut and paste, the Google Translate program was unable to convert my last name, because it is not a known word. There is nothing to translate it too.

Even with her help, she still had to call her husband several times to ask questions (He has a Yahoo Auctions Account).

Once we got past that mine field the system asked me to attach my new account we just set up to my BANK OF JAPAN account for payment!

This was the final road block that I could not get past. In Japan, you can not open up a bank account unless you are a CITIZEN of Japan. So, unless I denounce my US citizenship, become a Japanese citizen and open up a bank account I can not buy directly from Yahoo Japan!

So, your then asking “How Did I Get My Radio?”

The radio I won was so cheap, I was able explained to the seller what had happened and asked if I could mail him the money in the mail. I taped a coin the size of an American Quarter to the inside of an envelope and popped it in the mail. But you can see that if this was a larger transaction, say for hundreds of dollars, there would be very little chance of this happening. As it was, the seller asked for my address and phone number to verify that I was not a scammer.

Another problem I faced was that Google Translate does not do a very good job at converting English to Japanese and even when I tried to convert both his and my address into Japanese for the post office it came out all wrong. I had to go to the post office and back to my wife’s coworker 3 times to get it right!

This whole process from winning the auction to getting the radio took more then a month!

As of right now, I see it impossible to get around this and buy from Yahoo Japan directly. All those beautiful radio’s calling out to the world for so cheap and it seems impossible to get at them at those prices!

All this time in Japan….I swear I think I’m turning Japanese, just not enough Japanese to buy from YAHOO JAPAN!

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restocat

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Good job on this. Once someone finally breaks the barrier and can figure out how to bulk ship them to the US/UK etc, that should bring down some prices :thumbsup: 920s for 100$ :w00t: :lol:
 

Terry

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Just to add to Lasonic TRC-920s excellent post:

I use Japan Auction Center to buy Boomboxes, in fact I currently have 2 x Sharp GF 808's & a Sharp GF 999 coming to me as I write this.

So far there have been no issues. JAC have 3 options for translation to English, but be aware automatic translation can be flakey, JAC have no easy way to search, I use the categories and navigate my way to cassette decks.

What Chris says is correct, it can cost a lot, so be aware of the charges. They accept PayPal.

First up there is the cost of the radio itself, say you win an auction for 5000 Yen, and transfer that amount to JAC, you will be up for all of their PayPal fees, usually 3.9% plus a 40 Yen handling fee. PayPal also manage to screw you for 2% because their international exchange rates are set that way.

JAC then charge you a percentage for winning the action, 800 Yen plus a percentage, for a 5000 Yen winning bid, this adds 1200 Yen to your costs.

Then there is the local delivery charge, this is the local sellers' postage or courier charge, this may or may not be mentioned in the auction, 1500 yen seems to be about average for Japanese delivery, I was actually hit for a 5000 yen delivery for my GF-999. Jac also add a 300 yen fee for "bank fees".

Repacking:
I recommend you get JAC to repack, Why? Well the average seller in Japan would be unaware that you are overseas from him, as far as he is concerned he is shipping locally. He may use packaging material that is not allowed into your country, such as an old fruit carton or some such thing, customs would take a very dim view and as happened to me when buying something from New Zealand, customs charged me a substantial fee to fumigate my item, and it took about 4 weeks longer than it should have. JAC use all new material and charge a Y1200 fee for a standard repack,

Now comes the air freight, JAC default is EMS air freight, larger and heavier radios cost more of course.
I was charged 14000 Yen from Japan to Brisbane Australia for my National RX-5700 & 16000 Yen for my Sharp GF 808.
Air freight took less than a week.

So a 5000 Yen radio can wind up costing a lot more, but it's I think it's still cheaper than a $500.00 Radio from China.

Lets work it out eh, using the 5000 Yen Radio as mentioned above.

5000 Yen Radio Cost
1200 Yen Winning Auction fee
300 Yen Local bank fee
1500 Yen Local Delivery (delivered to JAC in japan)
1200 Repack
16000 Yen EMS Air Delivery
PayPal Exchange Loss ~ 2%

Total of 257004 Yen

= just under US $300.00 to land at my front door here in Australia.

Your mileage may vary considerably.

As a footnote I wasn't perfectly happy with the packing from JAC, it was OK, but may not survive the US postal system.
I would rate it 6.5 out of 10.

Also please note that you may be up for import duties, Australia has no such duties on second hand items below Au$1000. Check with your local authorities.
 

Lasonic TRC-920

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Hey Terry, great work filling in the blank spot on this conversation!

I did forget to mention the shipping / packaging issue, glad you mentioned that. I agree, I don't think the Japanese packaging would survive the US Postal / Wood Chipper Service!

I don't know who is worse, UPS or USPS but that's a whole other thread!
 

Jovie

Member (SA)
Wow!Interesting stuff but I don't know that any transaction would be worth all that to me.Maybe I'm just not hardcore enough.
 

MONOLITHIC

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Since 2008, I've had 12 boxes shipped from Tokyo and plan on getting more in the future 'cause there currently aren't any boxes in the U.S. that I want.

To me, all those fees mean nothing 'cause if the end result is having a box that can't be bought here, my collection gets flyer. :cool:
 

Gluecifer

Member (SA)
MONOLITHIC said:
Since 2008, I've had 12 boxes shipped from Tokyo and plan on getting more in the future 'cause there currently aren't any boxes in the U.S. that I want.

To me, all those fees mean nothing 'cause if the end result is having a box that can't be bought here, my collection gets flyer. :cool:

Amen.

Great post Chris!

Rock On.
 

jaetee

Member (SA)
Great info! Thanks for the insight!

....now I'm going to have to watch "Lost In Translation" again....

JT
 

Ghettoboom767

Member (SA)
Wow! Very interesting indeed! :-O
I'd love to get a Grail from there sometime but don't most of them
only go to 92mhz?
Still to get a nice Grail it's usually not easy anywhere you buy
It unless you get it In the wild.
Good luck with your purchases & may they arrive safe! :-)
 
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