Volume and bass encoders wanted for Kaboom

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vica

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Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get encoders for both the bass and volume controls? The JVC model is RV-B90GY. I assume the same encoders were used on many models.

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Superduper

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I'm trying to discern what an encoder is. Vica, are you asking about the volume and bass potentiometers?
On modern equipment, potentiometers are no longer used since modern audio processors are digital. Rather than rely on a potentiometer that varies the resistance in a circuit, these processors rely on digital pulses instead for operator input. A digital encoder looks like a potentiometer but if you observe carefully, you'll see that the knobs can spin infinitely, and they often click as you rotate them. These encoders have at least 2 channels and will output a pulse in either direction . The processor knows which direction you are turning the control and will digitally change the sound based on the direction the control is being turned. The advantage compared to a potentiometer is that they are not analog and prone to the scratchiness from oxidation build up. Similar to how morse code is better than a telephone signal when there is a lot of interference. The sure giveaway in determining whether a control is a potentiometer or a digital encoder is that a potentiometer has a rotational range, whereas a digital encoder can spin continuously.
 
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caution

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Volume/woofer adjustments use encoders, not pots.


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On modern equipment, potentiometers are no longer used since modern audio processors are digital. Rather than rely on a potentiometer that varies the resistance in a circuit, these processors rely on digital pulses instead for operator input. A digital encoder looks like a potentiometer but if you observe carefully, you'll see that the knobs can spin infinitely, and they often click as you rotate them. These encoders have at least 2 channels and will output a pulse in either direction . The processor knows which direction you are turning the control and will digitally change the sound based on the direction the control is being turned. The advantage compared to a potentiometer is that they are not analog and prone to the scratchiness from oxidation build up. Similar to how morse code is better than a telephone signal when there is a lot of interference. The sure giveaway in determining whether a control is a potentiometer or a digital encoder is that a potentiometer has a rotational range, whereas a digital encoder can spin continuously.
Thanks for the quick education, Norm! I've been using encoders for years and never knew they were called encoders. :rock: :surf:
 

caution

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On modern equipment, potentiometers are no longer used since modern audio processors are digital. Rather than rely on a potentiometer that varies the resistance in a circuit, these processors rely on digital pulses instead for operator input. A digital encoder looks like a potentiometer but if you observe carefully, you'll see that the knobs can spin infinitely, and they often click as you rotate them. These encoders have at least 2 channels and will output a pulse in either direction . The processor knows which direction you are turning the control and will digitally change the sound based on the direction the control is being turned. The advantage compared to a potentiometer is that they are not analog and prone to the scratchiness from oxidation build up. Similar to how morse code is better than a telephone signal when there is a lot of interference. The sure giveaway in determining whether a control is a potentiometer or a digital encoder is that a potentiometer has a rotational range, whereas a digital encoder can spin continuously.

There are also different types of rotary encoders - in this case it's incremental because it doesn't remember its position. All that's inside is a ring of ticks that provide a signal if it's moved in either direction. Absolute encoders tend to be used on stuff where position is more important, like function dials (eg. the shuttle dial on a VCR). The inside has a bunch of concentric rings of dashes of differing lenghs that when read together, provide a unique binary value "encoded" for each position. It could be a purely sequential binary setup, or something tailored for a specific use case
 
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