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Beosystem10

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Did he say 12 days without a crime, why and how is that news? :huh: I should hope they can go under a fortnight without a crime happening, if not then what are the local polises being paid for?
 

systemaddict

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Beosystem10 said:
Did he say 12 days without a crime, why and how is that news? :huh: I should hope they can go under a fortnight without a crime happening, if not then what are the local polises being paid for?
He said 12 days without a homicide :jawdrop:
 

Beosystem10

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Oh right, well that's even worse! Are they saying that they get a murder in NYC within each period of twelve days?

Imagine how the UK would react to that sort of crime rate. Considering it makes the local news if two dogs take a shite in the same spot..
 

Cpl-Chronic

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Beosystem10 said:
Oh right, well that's even worse! Are they saying that they get a murder in NYC within each period of twelve days?

Imagine how the UK would react to that sort of crime rate. Considering it makes the local news if two dogs take a shite in the same spot..
Well, I hope I don't cause a political debate about this but the reason NYC, Chicago, LA, Detroit ect. have such high homicide rates are the absolutely horribly lax gun laws, coupled with gun happy Americans who think they are going to defend themselves against the world with a handgun, shotgun etc. only to have it stolen out of their homes by burglars & then used in crimes. I live in Canada & we have low homicides here too for our big cities but that is changing unfortunately from the flood of guns crossing the border illegally from the southern states, where you can buy a gun without a permit or any tracking of that gun. Here, you have to have a firearm permit & take a class to educate yourself about proper safeguards & hand guns are illegal for general ownership. You have to have a special permit, as a police officer, etc. to own a handgun. Hence our violent crime rates are miniscule compared to the crazy US & their NRA goonbah's. I remember as a kid, 1 homicide a year was the norm for Toronto, a city of 2 Million people, the same as Detroit was at that time & yet, they regularly reported 300-600 a year.....statistical proof that more guns are not the answer & more than 50% of fatal home shootings at the hands of burglars were done with the homeowner's own gun.

Any aggressive situation, whether road rage, bar fights, robberies, muggings, etc. will escalate to a deadly level fast, when guns are introduced....it's pretty simple logic but the gun nuts don't see it that way & I bet there are some good cops on this forum who would agree that guns are the last thing most civilians should be carrying around with them. I support the men & women in blue & thank them for the job they do everyday & if hand guns were outlawed in the US, more good officers would make it home to their families....

Just my 2 cents & no I'm not an Obama loving commie so don't bother with that track or you will get the spat of a lifetime here. Just warning the FOX UN-NEWS zombies to go elsewhere for a fight because I will inundate them with statistic after statistic that proves my point beyond their NRA flatulence....

Cheers,
Cpl
 

howie1976

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Cpl-Chronic said:
Well, I hope I don't cause a political debate about this but the reason NYC, Chicago, LA, Detroit ect. have such high homicide rates are the absolutely horribly lax gun laws, coupled with gun happy Americans who think they are going to defend themselves against the world with a handgun, shotgun etc. only to have it stolen out of their homes by burglars & then used in crimes. I live in Canada & we have low homicides here too for our big cities but that is changing unfortunately from the flood of guns crossing the border illegally from the southern states, where you can buy a gun without a permit or any tracking of that gun. Here, you have to have a firearm permit & take a class to educate yourself about proper safeguards & hand guns are illegal for general ownership. You have to have a special permit, as a police officer, etc. to own a handgun. Hence our violent crime rates are miniscule compared to the crazy US & their NRA goonbah's. I remember as a kid, 1 homicide a year was the norm for Toronto, a city of 2 Million people, the same as Detroit was at that time & yet, they regularly reported 300-600 a year.....statistical proof that more guns are not the answer & more than 50% of fatal home shootings at the hands of burglars were done with the homeowner's own gun.

Any aggressive situation, whether road rage, bar fights, robberies, muggings, etc. will escalate to a deadly level fast, when guns are introduced....it's pretty simple logic but the gun nuts don't see it that way & I bet there are some good cops on this forum who would agree that guns are the last thing most civilians should be carrying around with them. I support the men & women in blue & thank them for the job they do everyday & if hand guns were outlawed in the US, more good officers would make it home to their families....

Just my 2 cents & no I'm not an Obama loving commie so don't bother with that track or you will get the spat of a lifetime here. Just warning the FOX UN-NEWS zombies to go elsewhere for a fight because I will inundate them with statistic after statistic that proves my point beyond their NRA flatulence....

Cheers,
Cpl
I'm kinda scared to read the responses you're gonna get!😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
 

Beosystem10

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Cpl-Chronic said:
Well, I hope I don't cause a political debate about this but the reason NYC, Chicago, LA, Detroit ect. have such high homicide rates are the absolutely horribly lax gun laws, coupled with gun happy Americans who think they are going to defend themselves against the world with a handgun, shotgun etc. only to have it stolen out of their homes by burglars & then used in crimes. I live in Canada & we have low homicides here too for our big cities but that is changing unfortunately from the flood of guns crossing the border illegally from the southern states, where you can buy a gun without a permit or any tracking of that gun. Here, you have to have a firearm permit & take a class to educate yourself about proper safeguards & hand guns are illegal for general ownership. You have to have a special permit, as a police officer, etc. to own a handgun. Hence our violent crime rates are miniscule compared to the crazy US & their NRA goonbah's. I remember as a kid, 1 homicide a year was the norm for Toronto, a city of 2 Million people, the same as Detroit was at that time & yet, they regularly reported 300-600 a year.....statistical proof that more guns are not the answer & more than 50% of fatal home shootings at the hands of burglars were done with the homeowner's own gun.

Any aggressive situation, whether road rage, bar fights, robberies, muggings, etc. will escalate to a deadly level fast, when guns are introduced....it's pretty simple logic but the gun nuts don't see it that way & I bet there are some good cops on this forum who would agree that guns are the last thing most civilians should be carrying around with them. I support the men & women in blue & thank them for the job they do everyday & if hand guns were outlawed in the US, more good officers would make it home to their families....

Just my 2 cents & no I'm not an Obama loving commie so don't bother with that track or you will get the spat of a lifetime here. Just warning the FOX UN-NEWS zombies to go elsewhere for a fight because I will inundate them with statistic after statistic that proves my point beyond their NRA flatulence....

Cheers,
Cpl
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howie1976 said:
I'm kinda scared to read the responses you're gonna get!
:lol:
Hmm, it's illegal to own guns here unless you're a licenced professional user such as a gamekeeper, farmer or someone who takes part in a sport that involves shooting at targets or clays. In any of these cases, the firearm in question must be kept in a locked container that has to be constructed to meet certain standards and cannot be broken into but the fact is that if someone wants a gun badly enough, they're going to find one by illegal means and that brings with it the risk of getting a weapon that's a dangerously modified replica or something home made.
If we did allow just anyone to own a weapon, then at least the supply of such things would be controlled and quality standards would have to be met just as they do for electrical goods and devices such as boilers, stoves and fires which connect to the domestic gas supply so in that sense, a touch more freedom could, potentially, be a good thing and would certainly reduce the appeal of guns to young people who'd move on to another strand of crime if guns were no longer a challenge to them.
 

Lasonic TRC-920

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Actually Los Angeles is at a 20 year low in crime in general and homicide specifically, but thanks for that.
I'm also proud to say I am a gun owner and haven't killed anyone.

YET! :annoyed:

Now, Getting back to the thread topic...
 

trippy1313

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I could be way off base here, but I would guess that NYC, is probably one of the most visited cities in the world, (could be wrong) meaning while the population may be "X," the total number of people in and out of the city is probably multiplied drastically. Now obviously most crimes are probably committed by residents, to other residents. But I guarantee with as many people that go in and out of that city, that number has to increase. Whether it be visitors that are targeted but residents, Visitors who maybe don't get along with residents, or visitors that don't get along with other visitors.

Wow I wrote visitors a lot. Anyways,I could be way off base. But I think my point has some solid ground in there somewhere. Now before you go saying France has more tourists, remember, it's France.... haha. Only kidding.
 

floyd

Boomus Fidelis
like archie bunker said in response to gloria saying that many people in the usa are killed with guns every year , "would it make you feel any better if they were all pushed out of windows instead".
 

Cpl-Chronic

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JVC Floyd said:
like archie bunker said in response to gloria saying that many people in the usa are killed with guns every year , "would it make you feel any better if they were all pushed out of windows instead".
Actually , it would....at least the assailant has to be within arms length & you have chance to fight back....besides, statistics have proven my point over & over & over again & I don't deny anyone the right to own firearms but, like driving, it should come with common sense restraints & a well regulated, system of accountability. Handguns are for one thing, killing human beings & having a gun on your hip makes things tense for women & children too & do you want your family to live in a world where everyone is packing & super paranoid? Illegal guns are on Toronto streets from the guns shows in the south, where all you have to do is flash a fake ID & buy as MANY guns as you want & then smuggle them over the border.

Even if LA has the lowest homicide rate in years, Chicago is now the murder capital & it used to be Detroit, Miami, etc, & I bet it's horrifically high compared to Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, London England, Copnehagen, Amsterdam, etc. You can't just buy a car & start driving at any speed you want, anywhere you want & without insurance or registration. I had a friend who had a gun collection & one of his so-called friends, no one knows who to this day, broke into his apartment, sawed through the steel gun locker & stole all of them. He feels horrible when he thinks about the potential those guns have in the wrong hands & has never bought another gun again & never will....he played by all the regulations & my point is, if he hadn't had them in the first place, as a law abiding citizen, then they wouldn't have ended up on the streets, with the serial numbers files off....

Anyways, I made my points about what a nicer place the world would be without handguns but you can believe what you want. Personally, I feel safer in Canada where handguns are illegal without a special permit & I'm guessing cops who work hard to protect us from violence would feel the same....that's all I'm saying because the world isn't a perfect place & once guns are introduced into any tense situation, you are spinning that kharmic wheel in the sky & betting on black, dead black....

PEACE!!!
 

JustCruisin

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JVC Floyd said:
like archie bunker said in response to gloria saying that many people in the usa are killed with guns every year , "would it make you feel any better if they were all pushed out of windows instead".
:lol: I remember that quote! :thumbsup:
I was just saying that yesterday while somebody was trying to tell me about the killings on the news that I don't care to hear about.. I said, "you could walk out to your car and get hit and die, people kill, people die everyday, no sense in me worrying about it.."

Like this Bobby Christina girl.. I went my whole life not even knowing Whitney Houston had a daughter..never met her, nor would I have the chance to.. So why is it a national news story when she goes into a coma..? Am I supposed to feel sympathy for someone I never even heard about? Would it be national news if it happened to you or I? No

This thread belongs in off topic btw..
 

Ken

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Please, someone move this to off-topics, before it gets too intense...then people can pound away to their hearts content. Not that folks in other countries don't have the right to have an opinion about things here in the states, just so that the inevitable blow up happens in the correct forum.

Mods?
 

floyd

Boomus Fidelis
i can tell you this . some of the craziest motherfuckers that ever lived didn't have guns at all.
at the end of the day you can blame the makers of guns , because without them there would be no problem. then motherfuckers can just use the other billion ways they find to do it.
 

JustCruisin

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I believe since knives are used to kill people they should be illegal to own as well..both butter and steak..
"Sorry kids, if you want a pb&j you are going to have to use a spoon.."
 

Cpl-Chronic

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en....It's a debate like any other...I simply brought the facts to bear & left the BS behind & I find it mind boggling that the pro gun crowd wants that kind of atmosphere for their police, their families & their communities. The really stupid part of this thread is that no one is addressing the fact that we have technology now that could use a thumb-print & GPS to control gun theft. Yes, every system can be bypassed but at least it'll deter the amount of thefts & illegal sales, etc. At least a debate about the facts can educate us about the real issues instead of the same stupid circular dumb ass logic the NRA are putting out while they have their rallies every time a toddler shoots themselves in the face with their parent's guns.

& no knives are not the same as a handgun. Do you cut your PB&J crusts off with a broad-sword?

Cpl
 
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