Thank You!

[Lasonic TRC-920]

Damn, Chris. Good points. Hell, a whole thread full of good points...

You have a way with words when it's something you're passionate about.

You have no idea what living in a legal state, but having all the work in your County on military bases, does to your "right" to smoke. It sucks. It's tough to watch many enjoy when you are not supposed to. Hell, there must be half the County that could be tested for cause. Some individual towns and counties up here are trying to ban it within their limits even after we passed legalization.

This is a long way from over, folks. I think, though, that the tide of history is on our side.

Burn one for me, will ya? ...and if anyone doesn't like it, send Phil Rudd over to "convince" him.

Thanks man,
I think there is a time and place for anything that impairs a person. I don't want my military high! I don't want welders working on a bridge high! I don't want the kid at the drive through window high. I think that having a good high paying, stable job is worth more than getting high. I think it's a fair trade. (not that working a drive through is a "good high paying, stable job")


One of the problems that face legalised pot is that it stays in your system for a long time. Unlike alcohol, it's out the next day. You can't test "Time of Ingestion" with pot. And that's a problem. Were you high 12 hours ago when you were on watch?" If we can't be 100% sure, YOU don't get to do it. It's just part of it.

While touring with a band from 1991 through 2012 we never traveled with pot. I would always ask the shows promoter if he could get some locally. That's how you know if you got a good promoter!

I have only been legal for 2+ years. For the other 28 years I bought weed like everyone else in the US, from a buddy, a band mate or a loser, WHO 9 times out of 10 was selling something else.

Scariest time I ever had while getting weed:
Had a buddy in the 90's who was my bass players roommate. Guy was cool, dealt lots of weed, but also sold "Other things". One night we're making a purchase at his place, knock at the door, he opens and there are some hardcore dudes there. Straight up LA gang bangers. One dude hands my buddy a box 12"x12"x12", say's "I'm Out, Leaving Town, These are yours". Dudes walk off. Buddy opens the box and it's 4 ounces of weed and a GUN! A 25 cal semi, no numbers!

This is what I have removed from my life! Being legal means, I don't come in contact with these people. In Ventura County where I live, there are no Pot Stores. I go to a website: http://sespe.org and place an order. An hour later it shows up, I pay with a credit card via a smart phone and it's all legal and all good. Been doing that for 2 years. No chance of me getting shot! No chance of me being tempted to by some Cocaine and throwing my life away. Just Chris, chillin' out, drinking a beer's smokin' a bowl.

I just watched The Culture High. A bit long and repetitive but did a good job in snagging some very high-level interview subjects (including one retired supreme court judge if I remember correctly).

Main takeaway I'll always remember: # alcohol OD's: a lot; # marijuana OD's: zero.

I haven't seen that. I will look for is.

That alcohol / pot OD stat is true and has been the strong point in an argument in California's legalisation for 20 years. People don't die from smoking weed. They just drive really slow! (don't smoke pot and drive I might be behind you!)

 

[jimmyjimmy19702010]

Sorry guys but you can't avoid the consequences of your actions. If you fill your lungs with this unfiltered crap for years and years on end, you are going to cause damage - after 20+ years of use you enter the danger zone and remember, lung damage can't be reversed.

I can see the need for medical marijuana for very ill people needing pain relief but I don't think it's a particularly wise choice for 'well' people just wanting to get high every night!

Just my 2 cents!

 

[Reli]

Not everyone smokes it, there are other ways of doing it, vape, bong etc.. And even if they do smoke it, they're not doing it as often as most cigarette smokers.

 

[Lasonic TRC-920]

Sorry guys but you can't avoid the consequences of your actions. If you fill your lungs with this unfiltered crap for years and years on end, you are going to cause damage - after 20+ years of use you enter the danger zone and remember, lung damage can't be reversed.

I can see the need for medical marijuana for very ill people needing pain relief but I don't think it's a particularly wise choice for 'well' people just wanting to get high every night!

Just my 2 cents!

Well, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, my doctor said unfiltered would be bad. I smoke filtered 70% of the time.

Never smoked cigarettes in my life, those are known to kill, still totally legal. It is up to the individual to decide if they wish to use it. Once they are aware of the consequences. Then it is their call.

Not everyone smokes it, there are other ways of doing it, vape, bong etc.. And even if they do smoke it, they're not doing it as often as most cigarette smokers.

I would say on average, I may have 3-4 puffs per night. TOTAL. Far short of smoking a pack or more of cigarettes per day. Living in Los Angeles is equivalent to smoking 1-2 packs of cigarettes PER DAY! (Most major cities are the same) Do I move? The man standing next to me is exhaling his second hand smoking into my space. Do I knock him out? My point is, it's all relative. But I'll agree with you. It's not healthy by any means. Smoking pot or anything isn't the key to the fountain of youth. But neither is GMO foods, Coke a Cola, Hormone injected Chicken, watching 5 hours of commercial laced TV or almost everything else we consume.

My grand father smoked 3 packs of cigarettes per day for 70 years. Died of emphysema due to complications of cigarette smoking. Still legal. His choice. Knew the risks. Did it anyway. And if he was here today, He would fight you to the death over those damn smokes!

Again, I'm not saying all this to convince anyone to start smoking pot. I'm merely laying out my experiance.

If it's not your thing. Thats cool too. I have never seen it being an issue with those who do and those who don't except for in the polls. In a "Free" society, "I" feel it should be my choice. That's all my point is. If it's not your thing, then you have the right to simply not do it, for yourself and your own reasons and NO ONE has the right to tell you otherwise. The same should go for if you choose to, regardless of whether someone thinks it's bad for you or not.

 

[jimmyjimmy19702010]

Well, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, my doctor said unfiltered would be bad. I smoke filtered 70% of the time.

Never smoked cigarettes in my life, those are known to kill, still totally legal. It is up to the individual to decide if they wish to use it. Once they are aware of the consequences. Then it is their call.




I would say on average, I may have 3-4 puffs per night. TOTAL. Far short of smoking a pack or more of cigarettes per day. Living in Los Angeles is equivalent to smoking 1-2 packs of cigarettes PER DAY! (Most major cities are the same) Do I move? The man standing next to me is exhaling his second hand smoking into my space. Do I knock him out? My point is, it's all relative. But I'll agree with you. It's not healthy by any means. Smoking pot or anything isn't the key to the fountain of youth. But neither is GMO foods, Coke a Cola, Hormone injected Chicken, watching 5 hours of commercial laced TV or almost everything else we consume.

My grand father smoked 3 packs of cigarettes per day for 70 years. Died of emphysema due to complications of cigarette smoking. Still legal. His choice. Knew the risks. Did it anyway. And if he was here today, He would fight you to the death over those damn smokes!

Again, I'm not saying all this to convince anyone to start smoking pot. I'm merely laying out my experiance.

If it's not your thing. Thats cool too. I have never seen it being an issue with those who do and those who don't except for in the polls. In a "Free" society, "I" feel it should be my choice. That's all my point is. If it's not your thing, then you have the right to simply not do it, for yourself and your own reasons and NO ONE has the right to tell you otherwise. The same should go for if you choose to, regardless of whether someone thinks it's bad for you or not.

Hey Chris, don't want to stir the pot here mate. Just voicing my opinion. I agree a pack a day cigarette habit is far worse than a few puffs of pot per night! My brother tried giving up the smokes 10 years ago and spent the first week coughing up huge blobs of black shiat each time he coughed. He took them up again shortly after.

One of my best mates back in 1987 got heavily into pot. He was one of the unlucky ones who went 'mental' after smoking too much of the gear and ended up topping himself at a party one night.

So I guess that experience has tainted my view of the whole 'get high' scene. I must admit though that I've lost more friends to car accidents than to drugs.

When I was young,I was a crazy bastard and I didn't really give a damn about the future because I assumed I'd be dead by 30 anyway. It's only after I reached this milestone that my 'view' of the future changed somewhat and I learnt to look after myself just that little bit more at least for my wife and kids sake.

James...

 

[Ken]

There also, due to it's being illegal , have never been almost any non-governmental studies done on marijuana. Most of the impetus for it's beneficial effects have come from it's users.

Marijuana doesn't have the same symptoms from heavy use as tobacco over the decades. It doesn't seem to cause cancer or emphysema at the same rate. Could it be that that is because it's an anti-inflammatory, for God's sake. Funny how they never seem to mention that when they try to scare you away from it. I know it doesn't make sense, but some researchers believe it's good effects flat-out outweigh it's bad ones.

I don't see an epidemic of cancer in Jamaica, do you? I'm talking about using marijuana like tobacco, from the instant you get up to right before you go to sleep. A pack or more of splifs per day. Yet, the age standardized death rate from lung cancer is higher here than there, at 35.38, as opposed to a rate of 16.17, per 100,000 people. (http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/world-health-review/jamaica-vs-united-states)

I'm sorry, but I just don't buy into the government's b.s. on this subject. The War On Drugs is a giant jobs program that has turned our country into a police state. Violent crime is based more on per-capita figures and has been dropping all over the country for decades. We need to legalize and empty those prison warehouses now. Hell, the day after the election two years ago, our county prosecutor dropped the charges on everyone waiting for a marijuana court date. When the Law & Justice section takes up almost 70% of the county budget and the jail is legally overcrowded, every little bit helps. Considering that between 35% & 45% of this country is addicted to something I think treatment is the only real alternative for those with substance abuse problems., like cocaine, heroine, alcohol, cigarettes, meth, refined sugars, high-fructose corn syrup, and everything else addicting and dangerous to your health. What is it about life in the U.S. that forces people to withdraw from it? If I'm going to escape from the banality of life I want to do it with the least harmful thing I can find.

I think it's time for some privately-funded real science on this subject, don't you?

 

[Reli]

The War On Drugs is a giant jobs program

The War on Terror even more so.

 

[ford93]

I could tell you guys a lot more about the "The War on Drugs" but it will have to be at a later time as this will be a very lengthy subject.

It's something that began in the mid 1800's so just stay tune or check out PBS prohibition and the History channel DVD's on the subject this is where I have gotten my knowledge and on the web.

Nothing on this earth is good if it's done in excessive.

Like I said before

Moderation and Responsibility.

Nuff said.

 

[mancardo]

my big dream is to wash up on the shore of some desert island inhabited by amazon women and weed .

LMAO.....

 

[mancardo]

my big dream is to wash up on the shore of some desert island inhabited by amazon women and weed .

LMAO.....

 

[Lasonic TRC-920]

Hey Chris, don't want to stir the pot here mate. Just voicing my opinion. I agree a pack a day cigarette habit is far worse than a few puffs of pot per night! My brother tried giving up the smokes 10 years ago and spent the first week coughing up huge blobs of black shiat each time he coughed. He took them up again shortly after.

One of my best mates back in 1987 got heavily into pot. He was one of the unlucky ones who went 'mental' after smoking too much of the gear and ended up topping himself at a party one night.

So I guess that experience has tainted my view of the whole 'get high' scene. I must admit though that I've lost more friends to car accidents than to drugs.

When I was young,I was a crazy bastard and I didn't really give a damn about the future because I assumed I'd be dead by 30 anyway. It's only after I reached this milestone that my 'view' of the future changed somewhat and I learnt to look after myself just that little bit more at least for my wife and kids sake.

James...

Hey James, your not stirring the pot, we're just having a conversation and I respect your opinion on this subject. Another point of view and another experience.

I'm really sorry to hear about your mate. I can see why this would be a sensitive subject and would never try to debate someone or convince them otherwise when you have experienced something so close to home. Drug addicts and alcoholics never understand the pressures they put on the people around them.

From pot to alcohol to aspirin, anything that is ingested into the human body will affect each person differently. Right now as you read this there is a man putting a bottle to his lips and by the time that bottle hits the table he will be dead. On the other side of the planet another man is sitting at a bar after a long days work. He will have ONE drink and go home without any trouble at all. Our global society has decided that the percentages of that who can keep it all in balance is worth letting everyone make up their own mind. Sadly, no matter how much education there is and how many warning labels there are, there will always be a percentage that can't handle it.

I guess in the roulette wheel of chemicals I'm a lucky one.

 

[floyd]

look at how many dudes throw themselves out of windows every year because of some woman/women. so it can't just be weed and booze or drugs . i seen people who can't function if life because their dog died. i think there's about a billion other ****ed up things about people that have nothing to do with drugs or alcohol .

 

[Lasonic TRC-920]

look at how many dudes throw themselves out of windows every year because of some woman/women. so it can't just be weed and booze or drugs . i seen people who can't function if life because their dog died. i think there's about a billion other farked up things about people that have nothing to do with drugs or alcohol .

Oh man....the whole WOMEN thing would be a massive thread unto itself

 

[ford93]

Women are the best high a man could ever want.

 

[floyd]

thats true .
i'm sure that mr bobbit dude would agree too lol.

his wife musta just been holding onto his cock for safe keeping . thats a very thoughtful wife .

 

[ford93]

Wow man, sorry to hear about your condition man. That has to be a heavy weight on your shoulders never knowing IF or WHEN

It's OK Chris I live with this everyday you see me kid around on some post and talk about not just radios but music. stereo etc....
But I always draw back to it and it just doesn't go away that fear of one day not being here.

So this is why I'am for this drug as I did it in my younger years and I know the effects of it and leaves me to think how ignorant I was in believing in those lies that was said to us by the Gov. at one point I was a believer. NOT ANYMORE!

I may have a short life but I really do believe this drug may help me to extend my life maybe a bit longer.

 

[Lasonic TRC-920]

It's OK Chris I live with this everyday you see me kid around on some post and talk about not just radios but music. stereo etc....
But I always draw back to it and it just doesn't go away that fear of one day not being here.

So this is why I'am for this drug as I did it in my younger years and I know the effects of it and leaves me to think how ignorant I was in believing in those lies that was said to us by the Gov. at one point I was a believer. NOT ANYMORE!

I may have a short life but I really do believe this drug may help me to extend my life maybe a bit longer.

I have always thought it to be such a shame that this "Plant of a 1000 uses" has been demonized for political and financial reasons all while it could be helping so many people. LAME!