Bombeat 40 info?
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Litfan said:
Yeah, you'd think the country of origin - Japan - would have more of 'em floating around than anybody else anywhere but they've got ZERO!
I'll tell you this tho... Take a BomBeat 40 - champagne or black - in mint condition and post it on Yahoo Japan for 6 days... That'll be a worldwide record box sale!
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So damn sad to hear that you caved in to dude... The chances of you ever getting that box back are slim to none!
I hope he sold a kidney or some other vital organ to get that box from you!! DAMN!!!
monchito
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there has to be more of these 
,,more than likely forgotten about i do not think they were just going to build just one even the black ones ,,to me people have them more than likely have been forgotten about or have been trashed not thinking they were worth anything .. lately when we thought only one of the black one and the one that litfan had now we have seen a few popping up ,,so i say give it a bit more time and we will see them show up and we all will have one 
,,more than likely forgotten about i do not think they were just going to build just one even the black ones ,,to me people have them more than likely have been forgotten about or have been trashed not thinking they were worth anything .. lately when we thought only one of the black one and the one that litfan had now we have seen a few popping up ,,so i say give it a bit more time and we will see them show up and we all will have one 
Strānj-Bōōmbŏks
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Gluecifer
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When you think about it, this makes a fair bit of sense when you look at the market in 1982.
This would be the high point of the boom box period, with the market being massively
competitive. The S90 is a massively high end and expensive box, it would've cost Toshiba
a lot money to make it. And if you look at it it's got a very late 70s look to it, especially the
green tinged glass which was a hallmark of a lot of components from the late 70s, not to mention
their over the top ADRES noise reduction system, plus the big needle meter itself.
Maybe this was considered an unpopular design for the west and Toshiba went back
to the drawing board and came up with a cheaper and far more street-looking box for the western
markets where it could compete more with other mid priced boomboxes. If you look at the ranges
in 1982 there were very, very few all black boxes. The BomBeat40 on the same shelf as the ranges
from Sharp, Hitachi, Panasonic, Sanyo, et al would really stand out.
Of course this is all just my thoughts on the matter, and I've certainly got no definitive proof about any
of this, but it could be the BomBeat40 was the first real 'black box' ghettoblaster that was then the inspiration
in later years from the likes of Lasonic and such.
It's something to think about anyway, especially given how comepetitive the market was back then and how
quickly companies would need to have models of radios out to separate themselves from all the others
on display.
None of this gives any ideas as to why they are so bloody rare though. But, with the BomBeat40 and S90
being Toshiba's biggest onepiecers, one just needs to look at their rarity compared to the WX-1 range, which
was definitely in far more plentiful supply. Perhaps Toshiba saw the future being in threepiece radios and
shifted their production focus on these?
We may never get any kinds of answers about this, but I do like to ruminate about the possibilities.
Rock On.
This would be the high point of the boom box period, with the market being massively
competitive. The S90 is a massively high end and expensive box, it would've cost Toshiba
a lot money to make it. And if you look at it it's got a very late 70s look to it, especially the
green tinged glass which was a hallmark of a lot of components from the late 70s, not to mention
their over the top ADRES noise reduction system, plus the big needle meter itself.
Maybe this was considered an unpopular design for the west and Toshiba went back
to the drawing board and came up with a cheaper and far more street-looking box for the western
markets where it could compete more with other mid priced boomboxes. If you look at the ranges
in 1982 there were very, very few all black boxes. The BomBeat40 on the same shelf as the ranges
from Sharp, Hitachi, Panasonic, Sanyo, et al would really stand out.
Of course this is all just my thoughts on the matter, and I've certainly got no definitive proof about any
of this, but it could be the BomBeat40 was the first real 'black box' ghettoblaster that was then the inspiration
in later years from the likes of Lasonic and such.
It's something to think about anyway, especially given how comepetitive the market was back then and how
quickly companies would need to have models of radios out to separate themselves from all the others
on display.
None of this gives any ideas as to why they are so bloody rare though. But, with the BomBeat40 and S90
being Toshiba's biggest onepiecers, one just needs to look at their rarity compared to the WX-1 range, which
was definitely in far more plentiful supply. Perhaps Toshiba saw the future being in threepiece radios and
shifted their production focus on these?
We may never get any kinds of answers about this, but I do like to ruminate about the possibilities.
Rock On.
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We need to find a Toshiba sales rep from back then to see what they know. Because as it stands it's one of the great mysteries of the world.
Scotty
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mmcodomino
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It's firetrucking expensive to produce the casts for all the parts for one model of a boombox.
The BB40 has so many parts that were not recycled with any other boxes. The only thing that seems familiar is the back cover which looks like an S90....
The front is unique and it would not be logical if they only made 1000 or so. This is a mass produced box like any other boombox.
Many have survived, I am sure. In a year or so, eBay will be flooded and the price will deifnitely drop to under 800.
Just my opinion but I truly believe it.
The rarity of the S90 is easily explained because it is Japan only and never got released anywhere else.
The BB40 has so many parts that were not recycled with any other boxes. The only thing that seems familiar is the back cover which looks like an S90....
The front is unique and it would not be logical if they only made 1000 or so. This is a mass produced box like any other boombox.
Many have survived, I am sure. In a year or so, eBay will be flooded and the price will deifnitely drop to under 800.
Just my opinion but I truly believe it.
The rarity of the S90 is easily explained because it is Japan only and never got released anywhere else.
Gluecifer
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The only thing that makes the S90 rare is the market it was released in, that said it certainly wasn't produced in small numbers in japan.
I'd say much like the high end Nationals that were only sold in .jp they made a lot of them, so the term 'rarity' isn't a true term you could
associate with them, almost any day of the week for the last four years theres been at least one on yahoo.jp for sale.
Maybe all the BomBeat40s ended up in South America? Seems to be the only place showing up more than a couple with any kind of consistency over the last few years.
Nestor's sure going to have a good time finding out for us when he moves back in September!
Rock On.
I'd say much like the high end Nationals that were only sold in .jp they made a lot of them, so the term 'rarity' isn't a true term you could
associate with them, almost any day of the week for the last four years theres been at least one on yahoo.jp for sale.
Maybe all the BomBeat40s ended up in South America? Seems to be the only place showing up more than a couple with any kind of consistency over the last few years.
Nestor's sure going to have a good time finding out for us when he moves back in September!
Rock On.
jaetee
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Glad to see there was a photo of this box on file somewhere! Nice job Ramon!
Personally, I think the black version looks better. With all the green, red, chrome and champagne, this version of the BB40 looks like a Special Christmas Edition boombox.
And even though I think it's probably one of the best looking boomboxes (in black) that there is, having heard a BB40 side by side vs. my JVC M90 I don't feel the least bit slighted that I do not own one. Granted, the one I heard was Ira's BB40 right after he got it and before superduper got his hands in it and did some fixin' up... but I'm perfectly content with having the M90 as my collection's flagship. BB40 didn't sound bad, but it aint no M90.
Litfan, what is it that makes you regret selling this box the most? Do you miss the way it sounded? Or you feel regret because of potential "lost opportunity?" (ie.. you didn't get enough money for it when you sold it to Radiohier based on going market rates for BB40's these days)? Either choice is completely understandable. I'm not trying to start any fights, I'm sincerely curious...
And this next thought might be better as a topic for it's own thread,... but this discussion kind of makes me wonder about the reasons behind why we collect? Is it to find and own the rarest boxes; to have the most boxes; or to find the best low price box you can sell for the most money? For most of us it's probably a combination of all three reasons, plus maybe others...
Personally, I think the black version looks better. With all the green, red, chrome and champagne, this version of the BB40 looks like a Special Christmas Edition boombox.
And even though I think it's probably one of the best looking boomboxes (in black) that there is, having heard a BB40 side by side vs. my JVC M90 I don't feel the least bit slighted that I do not own one. Granted, the one I heard was Ira's BB40 right after he got it and before superduper got his hands in it and did some fixin' up... but I'm perfectly content with having the M90 as my collection's flagship. BB40 didn't sound bad, but it aint no M90.
Litfan, what is it that makes you regret selling this box the most? Do you miss the way it sounded? Or you feel regret because of potential "lost opportunity?" (ie.. you didn't get enough money for it when you sold it to Radiohier based on going market rates for BB40's these days)? Either choice is completely understandable. I'm not trying to start any fights, I'm sincerely curious...
And this next thought might be better as a topic for it's own thread,... but this discussion kind of makes me wonder about the reasons behind why we collect? Is it to find and own the rarest boxes; to have the most boxes; or to find the best low price box you can sell for the most money? For most of us it's probably a combination of all three reasons, plus maybe others...
chevyman-uy
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Toshiba Tv ad from Argentina .the voice in off say .Toshiba presents their line of stereo and mono radiocassettes ,listen to Toshiba,the power of Japan..
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What gets me most, is, if i didn`t have a brain hemmorhage, there is no way, on this earth, would i have parted with my bb40. I was hoping to get a scrap 8890,or, something with similar tape keys, so, i could get mine back to full strength. Money, has never played a part for me. It`s the love for the boxes, getting them going again. That`s why, i kept my rt-s931. This thing, was a wreck when it arrived. Thanks to uncle ed, supplying me with a tape unit, and, remote control receiver unit, It`s my most played box. I also put a lot of work into the bb40, but, felt i had not finished. Ah well 
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