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dubout

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And the first colors out will be silver, red with gold trim, and black with gold trim.
Oh nooo, that's awful news! I was hyped to see the black colour option a few pages before because I found it looking slick and a bit mean. Now tacky gold trim? Are these for the WH?! I absolutely loathe gold on boomboxes, yikes ...
 

Transistorized

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So recently, I was looking into making a purchase on another product that is made in China and is not boombox related. I was going to purchase it but, I noticed in reviews that I read from others that they had to pay a tariff in addition to the cost of the item. That fee on that particular product was an extra $50 dollars and was not mentioned in the sale price directly. It was in the fine print on the bottom of the website.

So without getting political here, I feel that these questions are valid as I am assuming the BB-777 will be manufactured in China.

Will there be tariffs or import taxes in addition to it's sale price on the BB-777?
If so, what will the tariff price be in the US?

My apoligies if this has been addressed and I missed the response.
 

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So recently, I was looking into making a purchase on another product that is made in China and is not boombox related. I was going to purchase it but, I noticed in reviews that I read from others that they had to pay a tariff in addition to the cost of the item. That fee on that particular product was an extra $50 dollars and was not mentioned in the sale price directly. It was in the fine print on the bottom of the website.

So without getting political here, I feel that these questions are valid as I am assuming the BB-777 will be manufactured in China.

Will there be tariffs or import taxes in addition to it's sale price on the BB-777?
If so, what will the tariff price be in the US?

My apoligies if this has been addressed and I missed the response.
Very valid concern. I have been holding off on purchasing anything shipped from China if they aren't transparent on how that is handled. Apparently there is the Tariff charges, which I'm generally OK with as they serve some purpose (such as driving manufacturing back to USA, (maybe) lowering our national debt, etc.). This is a political issue so if you don't agree, that's all good -- it's still, at least for the time being, a free country. Mostly.

However, on top of the actual tariffs, there are additional fees to process the tariffs. AI suggests that this could range from $25-$50 fee per parcel and UPS/Fedex may charge from $35 - $60 per parcel. This is the additional handling fee over and on top of tariffs to process them. In other words, tariffs + tariff handling fee = total fee to import items. This is a deal killer for me, especially for small items. The fixed fee can be multiple orders exceeding the products value. There is some suggestion that this fee has increased for USPS since May to $100-$200.

HOWEVER, on eBay, you will see imported products will have a disclaimer either that (additional fees will be required to import this item), or (import fees are included -- there are no additional fees). How does that work? Apparently, the shippers can pre-pay the tariffs up front. This will eliminate the extra handling by the shipping companies and charge extra tariff related handling fees. Those sellers that prepay these tariffs can mark up their products slightly whereas the sellers that do not or can not prepay the tariffs will ship it in the regular manner. Since each such parcel will have to be intercepted by customs and then payment will have to be arranged before delivery, this extra step is what triggers the fixed handling fee. Since this fee is so high, and not really transparent, it's obviously not practical to purchase anything from China unless the seller prepays the tariff which is the smart thing to do.

How do chinese sellers can sell their products with slightly elevated fees and be imported directly? Apparently this handling fee is for each parcel, or (set of parcels on each import declaration form). Basically, the fee doesn't change, but on the declaration form, you can list a bunch of parcels in bulk. In this way, the handling fee is distributed between all the parcels they are shipping. If the fee was $25, and you have 1 parcel, then it's an extra $25 fee. But if 25 parcels were included in that same declaration form, then the fee can be amortized to only $1 extra per parcel. So again, smart sellers will prepay the tariffs and just jack up the price a bit, and absorb some. The sellers incapable or unwilling to do this loses sales. Those unwitting buyers that purchased anyways will either pay through the nose or the parcel is not accepted and customs trashes the shipment.

China and greater Asia (or the rest of the world). I have noticed that many DVDs sold from China will have these fees prepaid. However, the same DVDs from other Asian countries such as Malaysia will have disclaimers stating additional import fees will be required before the items can be delivered. I'm not sure if the this is a special deal or accomodation for China, but the situation continues to be fluid. For the time being, I suggest if you need to buy from China, only buy the goods that states all import fees are included.

The BB-777.... I have no idea on this particular situation. Maybe Mellymlsr can chime in about that, if he knows. However, I do know that USA companies that sell Chinese made goods, and there are many, has the option to import the goods themselves, prepay the tariffs (and the fees in bulk to distribute the fee among the entire shipment), and then sell the products here in the USA without any additional fees. I suspect this is the likely situation.
 
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Reli

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They just signed a contract with Amazon for worldwide shipping (excluding Russia, fortunately). Not sure whether that's relevant, but just thought I'd mention it.
 
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Transistorized

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They just signed a contract with Amazon for worldwide shipping (excluding Russia, fortunately). Not sure whether that's relevant, but just thought I'd mention it.
Now that you menton it, it seems as though I remember reading somewhere about that. If that is the case, I am guessing tariff costs would not be included in the purchase as I have yet to pay any additional taxes on anything through Amazon.
 

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Not necessarily. Amazon also sells some goods which ships from China as some sellers just use Amazon as a platform just like eBay. In those cases, Amazon will likely disclose whether additional import fees may apply, I’ve seen that. As for the 777, if the boomboxes and shipping are going to be handled by Amazon, sellers generally ship their goods in bulk to Amazon warehouses for them to fulfill. Since the goods are already in the USA, any tariffs would already have been paid at time of importation. This would be the wisest way for sellers to handle this because I imagine the west (not Asia) will be the largest market and it wouldn’t make sense to ship everything one by one to USA, Europe, etc and leave buyers to fend for themselves on the handling fees. Tariffs will have to be paid regardless, but the handling fees on individual shipments could be sales killers.
 

Superduper

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If I were bumpboxx, and I was planning to have Amazon distribute these globally, and Amazon has a global presence, I would simply have the manufacturer in China send some to USA (and pay our tariffs), and some to Amazon in EU (and pay those tariffs, if any, etc), etc., etc.. That way any duties due for the subject country are taken care of. If everything was shipped to USA, then the goods will be tariffed at a certain rate, and if it’s then shipped to, say Germany, there might be a separate USA —> Germany import fees, etc which could seem like double fees. I’m sure they have smart enough business people to make those decisions. After all bumpboxx has already been selling their Bluetooth speakers for a long time now.
 

beansmaynard

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If they're being made in China anyway, cut out the US for European customers and just ship out from China. Then, we just pay our normal customs fees that most of us are used to.
 

trippy1313

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If they're being made in China anyway, cut out the US for European customers and just ship out from China. Then, we just pay our normal customs fees that most of us are used to.
What I've noticed on a few things from China that I've bought. Sellers either ship to a country with minimal tariffs, so indirectly, then to the U.S. or... they claim a really low value on the items shipped so the tariff fee is much lower.
 

beansmaynard

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Here's a link to the prelaunch page for those of us who didn't receive the email. I'm anxious to pay the $2 as I'm not even sure they're shipping to Europe.


EDIT* I've reserved
 
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trippy1313

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I'm curious about the PreLaunch reservation. I made mine, but it sounds like it might not even be an actual reservation that locks you in to reserving an actual radio. My understanding is it just gets you on another list, so they understand how many radio they actual need to produce for the kickstarter, and then that reservation just gets you a presale kickstarter link....... I mean it's only 2 dollars, but the premise seems possibly misleading. Can anyone else confirm?

That was from what I read on a fb post.
 
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Brutus442

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I'm curious about the PreLaunch reservation. I made mine, but it sounds like it might not even be an actual reservation that locks you in to reserving an actual radio. My understanding is it just gets you on another list, so they understand how many radio they actual need to produce for the kickstarter, and then that reservation just gets you a presale kickstarter link....... I mean it's only 2 dollars, but the premise seems possibly misleading. Can anyone else confirm?

That was from what I read on a fb post.
I too was confused by this approach. If a Kickstarter campaign is expected to generate some capitol and interest, why go through a third party just to get a "discount" on the final product? I understand it's only $2 and a "reservation" but surely this could have been established though their site or even Kickstarter's (if they go that avenue).

I returned to the reservation site to see if I could access the forum and I can't find the link to it anymore. (including the link in a previous post here). Does anyone have the forum link for the BB-777?
 

trippy1313

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I too was confused by this approach. If a Kickstarter campaign is expected to generate some capitol and interest, why go through a third party just to get a "discount" on the final product? I understand it's only $2 and a "reservation" but surely this could have been established though their site or even Kickstarter's (if they go that avenue).

I returned to the reservation site to see if I could access the forum and I can't find the link to it anymore. (including the link in a previous post here). Does anyone have the forum link for the BB-777?
I think here. I believe it's part of the prelaunch page. Unless you mean here on the boomboxery site?

 
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Eddy

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I like to get my hands on one but i guess it is too soon.
I can wait to pull the trigger , see how it will go for European customers