(Almost) Received another boombox with Poor Packing job

[Radio raheem]

OK, here are the pics of the empty box.

Looks good so far. Until you pick it up and find that it feels awfully light for a GF-9797.

Taking a closer look at the bottom, I see something is not quite right...

See what I mean about the box being assembled with square cut cardboard? These boards are hard and doesn't compress much -- like what you would expect the covers of a hardcover book to be. See the paper that holds the cardboard together. The boards may feel sturdy but the paper is the only thing on all corners and edges.

This view shows that not all is well in paradise.

Went to the Post Office today for the second time. Yesterday, the claims dept was closed. Today, I go there and am told that they don't handle claims anymore -- I need to do this online. What a bummer and a total waste of my time. I'm about a razor thin close to filing a paypal claim now. Problem is that the item arrived so it may complicate things since the Post Office is going to show that the item was delivered. What it won't say is that the box was empty.

What a total nightmare, this is one reason i don't use ensurance you can bet it will be exuse after exuse

 

[alvinm]

Without having to reread your posts, did you go to the post office to pick this up, sign for it upon delivery, or was it left at your door? I assume the latter because I would have refused that package...

 

[LLopez]

WOW what a Cheap bastard this seller is, I mean that is not even a box, Surely that boombox would of not survived, I wonder if the boombox did got smashed and the a Postal worker just dumped it out and made it seem that was what the seller sent u, Or maybe the seller sent it that way so u would file a claim so he can get the money for himself, Or a Postal worker took a peak inside and kept it, Either way is messed upstill the seller is responsible it, I would see about the Postal claim, And if the Post office says the seller got the funds returned then take it with the seller and let him know where is my refuund, Then I would make a Paypal claim and with the Postal claim showing he got the money refunded but u didn't Paypal will fix him, At the end once u get your refund I would still bless this seller with a negative for being so freaking cheap . Good luck I feel for u, And keep us updated .

 

[MasterBlaster84]

Another careless seller who doesn't pack for Shiat, I hate to think what happened to that 9797. :'-(

 

[bill]

i say file the claim with paypal right aways. i mean its ok to be wrong maybe the box would be found or whatever.
seriously tho as far as i am concerned its the sellers responsibility to take due care with how they pack there items.
i mean it should be a no brainer and if you are going to sell something you should be willing to take care in packing it.
i have never shipped a boombox but i have shipped a lot of music gear in the past.
i would never ever ever be so sloppy with packing.
i mean its just lame.

 

[oldskool69]

What in the blue hel....?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Dude I would try to fing that seller and whoop that arse. What a shiatty job! That thing was designed to broken into!!!!

Un F'in believable!!!

 

[BMoney]

i guess we now know who sold superduper the cardboard box. :evilmad:

http://www.boomboxery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1600

 

[Superduper]

OK, so here is an update. I ask seller to refund my money and file USPS claim on his end. I was more than willing to cooperate on my end and present packaging, etc. Seller files claim and tells me USPS will send me a check for purchase price -- I am SOL on shipping and that's all he's going to do -- he's not refunding my money, only for me to wait for results of claim. He tells me to log in my self and check. No dice since only he can check. I've got no claim form to present box for inspection, etc. etc. I do not agree to eating shipping charges on crappy shipping like that. I'm not waiting for insurance claim since box has yet to be inspected and approval of claim is not a sure thing. Who knows, they might say it wasn't properly packaged. When I emailed him to tell him that I don't agree to eating the shipping, and also to tell him that I can't log in to check status, he gives me attitude like he can't be bothered.

Well, I'm done communicating with him and file claim. Ebay's claim is an automatated process until it get's escalated. Since the box arrived, they presume I have the merchandise and tells me I should send the merchandise back to him. Of course, no one has read the complaint yet -- it is in the pre-escalation phase right now. Seller emails back, is furious and asks me what I'm sending back to him. He says that I must have changed my mind and I'm trying to double dip. Well, I'm an ebay power seller, charter member (over 10+ yrs) with 650% more transactions and 100% feedback than him and he thinks I am the scammer. The nerve. Anyhow, he is cancelling the claim (fine with me) and I haven't heard from him.

However.... I see on S2G that he's posting there claiming buyers are being difficult (is it just me or others too?) so he's considering hauling 1/2 his collection to the dump. Well, I lost my normal cool and had to "strike back." I say, go ahead and dump them all. At least only he will be affected and no buyers will be harmed in the process.

Sorry for the rant. :evilmad: :angry: :evilmad: :angry: Anyhow, if you are wondering who it is that sent me the boombox, this appears to be the guy. Same name, same situation, same town.

 

[Superduper]

i guess we now know who sold superduper the cardboard box. :evilmad:

http://www.boomboxery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1600

Hey BMoney, where abouts are you? Didn't pay attention but you must be close to where I am.

Anyhow, I think that indeed, this is the fella that sold me the empty box. And the nerve of him to say that I AM THE ONE BEING DIFFICULT. I guess I shoud just accept my nice looking cardboard box, sit down, shut up, and take my nice medicine---- not!

 

[monchito]

man i cannot belive stuff like this happening but i guess it does but the whole thing to this the postoffice should have the boombox if it fell out they should had put it back in the box and tape it themselfs what i cant understand they had it in there hands :annoyed: :annoyed: :annoyed: :annoyed:

 

[Superduper]

I believe all packages go through an unmanned conveyor. If you look at the box, it did not look like it was busted completely. Once it get's into it's respective holding bin (sorted by destination) you may be looking at a sea of boxes. Also, I would venture to guess that the boxes get sorted automatically and the machine can't distinguish between boxes and seperated merchanside so the boxes go one way and the merchandise goes another.

Anyhow, the USPS holds regular auctions for seperated merchandise out of their Atlanta GA facility. If anyone is interested, you may be able to pick up this boombox on the cheap. Anyone in Atlanta want to help reunite me with this boombox?

 

[jaredscottfla]

WELL....this sucks
i posted in the other thread,not knowing about this...
but in any case are u sure it was jamescyberjoe from s2go. if so def lv him neg fb,and u did the right thing,filing the pp claim. pp honestly is slow and sucky it may take a few weeks but you will get your $$$ back u just have to make sure u make it clear u rec an EMPTY box. pp and ebay could insist u send an item back and pay return shipping chgs,obviously u can't do that on something u never recd. Keep the box,keep your pics and continue to followup it may take some time but you will be made whole. And if indeed it was jcj from s2go post in the crummy sellers thread and out him there as well.he won't at the very least have the oppurtunity to scam people here or there,and again def drop the red bomb on ebay,that's very important to let the world know u are dealing with a total creep.
It's really a shame people do buissness this way Good luck

 

[Superduper]

Jared, you had some frustrating selling experiences due to buyers jerking you around. This isn't the case in James situation. He listed a bunch of boxes for reasonable buy it now prices. All sold within days. I'm sure he is now receiving the fallout from his crappy shipping practices so what he's been going through is entirely different from what you went through.

I deliberately left out the pictures of the label to avoid having the gentlemans name/address shown. However, it is him, I am virtually certain. He stated on S2G that he has been out of the picture for some time and now wanted to sell his stuff, his ad pretty much says as much. Also, the name (James) matches. The State matches. The City matches. The time frame matches as this was purchased a little over 2 weeks ago and I finally received the box 10 days later. I emailed him right away but he said he was on vacation so I waited a while before getting more serious about requesting a resolution. I also sent him a bunch of highly detailed photos for his benefit to use to support his insurance claim, including the label that the USPS affixed indicating "received unsealed, without contents." In his last email, he had the gall to say I must have received it and am sending it back due to buyer's remorse.

All would've been fine had he been more cooperative. Sometimes, sh*t happens. But his "can't be bothered" attitude is what set me off. I mean, what did "I" do wrong besides pay him promptly and receive an empty box. I've been on ebay over 10 years and my positive experiences far exceed my negatives, both from a buying as well as selling perspective. Because I buy way more than I sell, I consider my selling activities from the buyer's perspective when selling which is why, knock on wood, I've had good selling success. NEVER has any item which I've sold been damaged in transit and I've sold and shipped some huge moster receivers (70 pounds). Anyhow, if James wanted to vent and seek clarity on his trials, tribulations and frustrations, all he has to do is look in the mirror.

 

[jaredscottfla]

we have no prob superduper,i'm not taking sides,i just asked a simple question,and u provided the simple anwser.
i've had similar situations as a buyer and of course publically listing the sellers address on a forum such as this is totally unacceptable.
It sucks when deals go down the tubes,mainly because the other party could care less that indeed is very weak. It sounds as if your on top of it and like i said i think you will get a refund,again as i said before if people did buissness the right way these things ould not happen. Generally,it is a crapshoot buying off the internet but i too have bought on ebay for a number of years with also way more pos exp then neg ones,but the bad ones sure do piss you off
It's unfortunate that this kind of cavalier attitude comes from a fellow collector, again i hope it all works out for you.I'm sure it will