The best way to lay down rules for your employer?

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Hi, I wonder if people can lend their thoughts on this, and I don't want any "Just do as you're told" -type posts. :lol:

I have worked at my current workplace for a few years, and last year a new manager took over the running of the place. The manager rules with an iron fist, subjecting staff to the constant threat of disciplinary action. Her favourite weapon is the "Improvement notice". She has put one member of staff on numerous improvement notices, threatening the person with disciplinary action if they fail to improve within a given time frame. She has already cut the person's hours and is now threatening them with demotion, which would directly affect their ability to pay their mortgage and bills. They are now seeking professional advice, and are in the process of reporting her conduct to her boss in an attempt to bring the manager to justice.

I have also had trouble with the manager a few times. She accuses staff of "working too slowly" and "talking too much", and these tend to be the main reasons she gives when threatening staff with disciplinary action. Some of the staff have worked together with the company for almost 18 years. 4 members of staff have already left since the new manager has started working here. The manager seems to move from one person to another, picking on different people. She is abusing her power, and is obviously a bully.

Until I am lucky enough to land myself with alternative employment, I have a few things that I want to say to her when she moves onto me again, and she will. Managers are used to laying down rules, and now I need to lay down some rules of my own. My rules are: I won't be threatened, bullied, harassed or otherwise disrespected by any member of management. What's the best way to go about telling her this?

Thanks! :-)
 

im_alan_partridge

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How big is the company you work for? do they have an HR dept.

I know at my work if you have any serious grievance you have a meeting with HR and you are also allowed to take a neutral person in with you.

I also think that if you receive any sort of disciplinary action against you, you must sign to at least acknowledge you have received it, so an employer cant just say "you've been warned twice already" sort of thing.
Although this maybe just my company.

Citizens Advice Bureau may be able to help you :-)
 

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The company has about 15,000 employees. HR have been phoned on numerous occasions but they don't want to know. Their answer is always "If you have a problem, speak to your manager", well we can't really do that if our problem is with that person! Yes, there is proper grievance procedures in place, but we're thinking at this point that it's best to raise a grievance against her with her boss' boss. He is familiar with us here as he used to be the manager at our place, and has been promoted twice since. Thanks for the replies fellas.
 

im_alan_partridge

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15000, wow that is a lot of staff.
Speaking to your bosses boss might be a good idea if he is familiar with people in your department, good luck with how this works out :-)
 

restocat

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My best advise is to transfer out of there as fast as you can, before you get any serious writeups. once you are marked, even falsely, it will be hard to transfer. Also alert the higher up boss that they are losing staff due to mismanagement, and see what they say. If there is no adequate reasponse, then that may mean they hired a hatchet person on purpose, so they can let people go while avoiding downsizing /layoff costs.

You cant fight a boss on your own, but if you get the majority of the workers to agree thst that person doesnt have the
skills to be a manager, then you can play all kinds of strategy games to get that manager out, such as all taking turns to mention to the upper bosses how her mismanagement and lack of communication skills is lowering everyones productivity.

Keep a log of everything that happens at work. every mistake or negative thing she does, log the time and day. Every negative word or phrase, record or write it down, to whom and what was said. notice the pattern and plan a strategy with others.

There is no reasoning with this kind of person. A sheep does not debate with wolves over whats for dinner.

For one on one with her, there are many strategies to use, it depends on the personalities.

I can go on and on here...

1. Keep her out of the loop that you want to remove her, and keep a low profile. If she finds out you talked to the boss and gets angry, one approach to tell her that you plan on taking over her position, because her management skills are not adequate. Then ask her if she will help you take over her position. At that point, you are her competition, and HR will usually respect your desire to get ahead, and ignore any whining she does about you.
2. simply ask. example: "Many people here say that you are too abrasive, and dont have the communication skills for your position. What should I tell them? Do you think you lack skills to communicate with them, or are they just misunderstanding you?". It is more fun if you say this in a group gathering, especially if you know others will back you up.
3. Find a way to unbalance her. She is only lashing out with confidence. If she feels her job is threatened, or people are investigating her, or even looking at her strange wardrobe or bloodshot eyes, she may back off.

Dont portray this to hr or bosses as a 1 to 1 problem, you and her, or you will be ignored.
best case, one to one confrontation outcomes with a boss are going to be lose-lose.

Use group facts and group agreement to convince management that they, as a company, will be better off without her. Back it up with facts.
Dont ignore the situation, thinking it will get better.

(all in my honest opinion)
 
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