Talk to me about replacing tuner glass

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kraftmatic

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So I have a few boxes that need new tuner glass. First, what's the best way to remove the old glass? Should I be using a heat gun to loosen up the glue?

Second, what's the best way to fab replacement glass? Is acrylic the best material to use? And what method should I use to cut it to the right size?

Thanks for any help, tips or suggestions! :thumbsup:
 

Cpl-Chronic

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As far as removing the tuner window, your guess is as good as mine. If you do get replacement window of acrylic, you need to go to a custom glass shop that deals with acrylic & the like. They can cut the plastic to size for you for a couple of bucks more & it'll be straight & clean cuts. If you try to cut it down yourself, you'll get cracks & pits along the cutting edge & the blade melts the plastic as it cuts. A real mess.

I tried cutting acrylic & plexi-glass myself & it turned into a nightmare. :thumbsdown:

Good luck.
Cpl
 

k2j

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kraftmatic said:
So I have a few boxes that need new tuner glass. First, what's the best way to remove the old glass? Should I be using a heat gun to loosen up the glue?

Second, what's the best way to fab replacement glass? Is acrylic the best material to use? And what method should I use to cut it to the right size?

Thanks for any help, tips or suggestions! :thumbsup:

Yep, go to your local plastic shop.. we have 'tap plastics' where I live. They do an excellent job of custom stuff but be warned, it gets expensive fast!!
 

ledmeter

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I would say don't remove them unless they're actually cracked or broken and ugly enough to warrant replacing.
And spend a long time on each one if you're making them up from scratch.
I agree with getting them cut out at a plastics shop. Even have the angles and facets planed by professionals if you have to.
Then save costs by polishing and finishing them yourself.
 

superlew

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Acrylic can be fickle. These guys are right. If you have a local plastics shop, it might be a good idea to do your local economy a solid. :yes:

That said, if you are feeling brave here is an excellent way to cut a fresh piece to size and shape:

Start with a new piece, masking still on both sides. mark your lines in pen so that they are easy to see. You'll need a band saw with a fine-toothed band at medium speed. Cut as close to your lines as possible, without actually taking the line. The band saw works because it is constantly cutting in the same direction. Next, using a sanding station, take your piece right down to the lines. You don't want to apply too much pressure because it will melt and distort the piece. You can also use the station to carefully champher the edges of your work. This takes a little practice. Once you have your precise size and shape, finish the edges with fine sand paper, sanding gently by hand, until the edge is smooth to the touch(160 grit works pretty well). Finally, peel back the mask 1/2" around all the edges, on both sides. Polish the edges with a cloth wheel on a bench grinder with a plastics polishing paste stick, until you have a glass-clear edge. Remove the mask and "Voila!"
If you need to drill your piece, do this before the final hand sanding. You will want to use a drill press with a standard bit (stay away, far away, from pilot-points). CLAMP YOUR WORK (this is why I have no feeling in my left thumb). With the press set at a medium speed, work slowly, letting the bit do the work. If you feel any resistance, you are drilling too hard and need to back the bit off the piece and let it cool for a few seconds. With care and patience, you'll have a perfect hole in one single piece of acrylic.

Lexan is a lot easier to work with, as far as cutting and drilling is concerned. But it can't touch the optical clarity and logevity of acrylic.

-Former (and sometimes active) Sign Fabricator.

If I think of it, I'll make a video. Could be next week, could be six months from now.
:-)
 

kraftmatic

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Wow, great post, Lew! Thanks for the detailed instructions. And I'd love to see a video tutorial -- let us know if you get one done! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

bklyn sound

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I have never removed a tuner glass except from a parts box i found ....but on the removal i cracked the casing but was sucessful on removing the glass...however on all of my restorations i usually am able to polish them out using an automobile varible speed polisher/sander...I tape off the area's on the box not to burn the paint on the cassing ....I begin with a microfinish compound with a white wool cutting pad this usually removes all the imperfections and gives me a smooth surface :thumbsup: after this step i use a finishing pad with finess it ...this is a liquid that is manufactued by 3m...after i use a good automotive canubra wax or meguires plastic x...my results using this process have been spectacular...just trying to say this could be a possible alternative to removing the tuner glass...here is a pic of my methods results :thumbsup:
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kraftmatic

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Wow, that's amazing work! I had no idea that you could restore glass to such condition. I'm going to have to try your method on a few of my units. Thanks for the info! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

Hurb

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bklyn sound said:
I have never removed a tuner glass except from a parts box i found ....but on the removal i cracked the casing but was sucessful on removing the glass...however on all of my restorations i usually am able to polish them out using an automobile varible speed polisher/sander...I tape off the area's on the box not to burn the paint on the cassing ....I begin with a microfinish compound with a white wool cutting pad this usually removes all the imperfections and gives me a smooth surface :thumbsup: after this step i use a finishing pad with finess it ...this is a liquid that is manufactued by 3m...after i use a good automotive canubra wax or meguires plastic x...my results using this process have been spectacular...just trying to say this could be a possible alternative to removing the tuner glass...here is a pic of my methods results :thumbsup: [ Image ] [ Image ]


Wow!! Great results, i've seen it done by someone using something like a "dremel" tool. Doing complete replacements are last option i think...
 
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