Cobra Comparison - For Ira!

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MasterBlaster84

Boomus Fidelis
Since I announced I found two excellent Panasonic Cobra's just 2 weeks apart in December I've had a standing request from Ira for a comparison. The Two models I'm comparing are the RX-DT75 and the RX-DT707.
RX-DT75
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RX-DT707 - Pic taken from web but mine is identical
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Size
Physically the 707 is wider and more bulbuous than the 75 but only about .2 pounds heavier. I would guess Panasonic intended to give the 707 more intereior volume for the speakers.
Advantage 707

Looks
This is of course subjective but I feel the 707 is extremely plain and boring with no style. The 75 has some sweeping lines and angles that does give it a bit of style even with it's boring dark grey color.
Advantage 75

Power
Both the 75 and 707 draw 57 watts and run Bi-Amps. I expect that they run the exact same amps. :yes:
No advantage to either

Speakers
The 75 runs a 3-way speaker speaker system: 8 cm Woofer, 8 cm Mid, 1.5 cm Tweeter (8 cm = 3.15 inches)
The 707 runs a 2-way speaker system: 10 cm Woofer, 8 cm Tweeter (10 cm = 3.94 inches)
Advantage 707 lows, Advantage 75 highs

Features
The 75 and 707 share many of the same features however the 707 adds Surround sound and Auxilary Input via RCA jacks. The features on the 707 are easier to access both with the top up and down. The 707 places access to more features directly under a button where the 75 is a little more menu driven.
Advantage 707

Sound
Here's the one everybody wants to know. :stereo:
I used both New Age music and the Gorillaz on CD to compare different qualities and a few things became apparent very quickly. On New Age music with moderate lows but more high frequency detail the 75 with it's true tweeter was just slightly crisper however the 707 performed very well. Mids on both boxes are very fluid and natural, I never felt I was missing anything with either box. Bass was another story and more of a surprise, the 75 could easily be pushed beyond it's limits with Gorillaz which is bass heavy music but the 707 went deeper and markedly louder before bass breakup began. The 707 also offered a very effective surround that didn't give me the hollow ear feeling like I've had with so many other surround boxes, the sound expanded and deepened wonderfully.
Advantage 707

Volume
Neither box is going to destroy your loudest boxes but both can play cleanly on the loud side, the 707 will go louder while playing clean probably due to it's larger woofer. I would place the output level just a little below an M90.
Advantage 707

Overall they are both excellent boxes with the cool and unique Cobra top however the 707 adds a few very useable features and handles the full range of sound just a little better than the 75.
Winner of the Comparison is the 707

Although the 707 came out on top neither box should be overlooked for any price under $100, even $200 for what they have and can do is not bad. :thumbsup:
 

redbenjoe

I Am Legend
big grateful thanks to you don -
i have wondered about those 2 for YEARS !!! :-O :-)

i have a 707 but never had/heard the 75 -
the 75 looks interesting :yes:

agree with you about the looks -
the 707 is a huge dreadful bore :thumbsdown:
so much so - that i am in process of making a wooden case -
just to hide it :-)

will be bringing it up to the march meet-
to impress the rude crowd that attends -
as they might not have let me compete -
or even enter the building with the ugly egg- exposed :-D :lol:

and it now does seem -that although the 75 placed second in
bass output -
its sure is a box worth getting :-D :thumbsup:
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MasterBlaster84

Boomus Fidelis
Well Ira Tim was right, the 707 is the generally better boomer but I wouldn't turn either away. :thumbsup:
Good luck on the box, I'm curious how that will turn out. :hmmm:
 

redbenjoe

I Am Legend
since the above shot -
many trim and color improvements have been added -
the next set of shots are bound to earn worldwide respect :thumbsup: :-) ;-)
 

floyd

Boomus Fidelis
i like the 707 more because it has a volume knob instead of electronic volume controls ,i never liked electronic volume controls.
 

MasterBlaster84

Boomus Fidelis
JVC Floyd said:
i like the 707 more because it has a volume knob instead of electronic volume controls ,i never liked electronic volume controls.

Floyd that's not a volume knob, it's a jog dial used for multiple functions such as changing stations or scrolling through menus. The volume on both boxes is electronic via a + and - button, I would prefer a knob too even if it just adjusted the volume digitally. The jog dial is one of the features I like better on the 707 than how the 75 functions.
 

floyd

Boomus Fidelis
i had one of the 707's back in the early 1990's ,damn been a long time since i used one damn old age lol.
 

jaetee

Member (SA)
I have a beater 707 pulling hardcore garage duty nowadays... ('cuz I got nervous about leaving the M90 out there in plain sight with the garage door open... and it deserves a/c).

My 707 really does fill the garage with sound very, very well... I'm very happy I own one. Too bad the top doesn't open/close properly and one of the tapedecks doesn't work... But, as a garage box it is killer!

Oh, and I don't so much look at is as an "egg"... It's more of a cigar...
 

MasterBlaster84

Boomus Fidelis
jaetee said:
Oh, and I don't so much look at is as an "egg"... It's more of a cigar...

:lol: A cigar? That's a new one but I agree these aren't to close to the egg, they are their own shape and cigar is about right.
 

redbenjoe

I Am Legend
jvc floyd is our go to guy for names :-)
so lets call it a 'cigegg' or an 'eggar'
and blame it on floyd :lol: :lol:

my wooden edition is the ' eggnomore ' :-) :-)
 

Radio raheem

Requiem Æternam
Great reveiw don howeaver i would just like to point out the 75 only has 2 speakers, the one in the middle is just a bass port and also my m90's go way way louder than the 707 but it's a great box and i agree with everything else you have said :-)
 

MasterBlaster84

Boomus Fidelis
Thanks TIm but I have to disagree on the speaker point.
The outer speaker is the midrange, the middle is the woofer and the inner is the tweeter. According to the manual the DT75 has a woofer, midrange and tweeter. Have you ever watched that middle speaker pumping when the bass line hits? Here is the spec page from the manual, look at the middle of the right column where Speakers are listed.

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Radio raheem

Requiem Æternam
i have had 3 75 had them all apart and there is no speaker in the middle unles it's one of those shiat pizo tweeters that do absoloutly nothing but i saw no speaker there, so stuff the manual lol

Also i would like to point out 2 interesting things about the 75, both decks have high speed rewind and both have electronic tape eject doors wich is a nice feature. :-)
 

redbenjoe

I Am Legend
don - do those inner speakers sound like tweeters ?

in your photo -
they look so much bigger than your spec sheet says :huh:
--and they do appear to look like radiators

hard to tell :-)
 

Radio raheem

Requiem Æternam
Sorry yes thanks ira i meant the inner speakers not the middlle reardless it only has 2 speakers, im going seinile like the top dog of the house ol irs :lol: :smooch: cuz its about 2 years since i had a 75 i just much prefured the 707 the 75 had a kinda hollow sound to me ie not as warm.
 

MasterBlaster84

Boomus Fidelis
Ira the only speakers that move are the middle speakers, they have a large surround to allow movement. No other speaker moves so they can't be radiators they have to be woofers. The inner speakers are small tweeters in large mounts the size of the other two speakers. It's odd to mount the tweeters in close like that but that's what they did. That leaves the outer speaker as the mid, it's 8cm but doesn't move so it has to be the midrange.

Tim, the manual states three drivers so I'm not making it up and since the box is ported on both sides under the speakers why would they have a radiator? Radiators simulate ports and are only used on sealed systems with no ports.
 

Radio raheem

Requiem Æternam
Rimmer36 said:
Sorry yes thanks ira i meant the inner speakers not the middlle reardless it only has 2 speakers, im going seinile like the top dog of the house ol irs :lol: :smooch: cuz its about 2 years since i had a 75 i just much prefured the 707 the 75 had a kinda hollow sound to me ie not as warm.
 
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