Are There Any Good Boomboxes With Built in HD Radio

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stereomann

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Was Looking Online For a Good sounding Boombox With HD radio But Have not seen any
I only seen the insignia one with ipod dock but I don't think the sound would be all that great on it
 

oldskool69

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By the time HD radio was released classic boomers were done. HD radio is OK but not as widespread as hoped. You can pretty much stream in HD via wireless device for local stations and if you don't want (supposed) commercial interruptions have a satellite subscription.

Just too many options out there for HD radio to really compete on a wide level. Talk radio probably is the biggest gainer from it. Mainstream music stations will tell you to stream it. Basically in a nutshell HD radio is like AM Stereo...too little too late. :-)
 

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Not necessarily Freddie. It "might" be the future, just like digital TV has. The reason has to do with bandwidth. HD radio can cram a whole crappola more programming into the same frequency bandwidth as a single analog station. As airwaves becomes ever more crowded and as demand for that precious real estate grow, you might see compulsory (read: govt mandated) or just free market pressured change.
 

oldskool69

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Superduper said:
Not necessarily Freddie. It "might" be the future, just like digital TV has. The reason has to do with bandwidth. HD radio can cram a whole crappola more programming into the same frequency bandwidth as a single analog station. As airwaves becomes ever more crowded and as demand for that precious real estate grow, you might see compulsory (read: govt mandated) or just free market pressured change.
I agree with what you are saying and am aware of the bandwith capabilities. (At one time talk of using cell towers as repeaters was considered during my days at American Tower Corp. Of course the tech wasn't mature enough...and then there was that cost/infrastructure thing. Now there's all kinds of spectrum.) It just seems to me that, unlike HDTV, it will be a hard sell...look at todays generation streaming Pandora, Tunebite, etc...on their wireless phones. Heck there's even a Beats Audio branded service being packaged with phones or as an ad supported option. :-)
 

Superduper

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True but you are talking internet streaming competition which is a whole nother thing and really is oranges to apples. The reason being that internet streaming requires an internet subscription which is not something that everyone has, or if they have it in their home, far less have it on their mobile devices. And if they do, then they almost certainly (small percentage) has it in their vehicles. And if they have 6 vehicles, then are they going to subscribe in all 6 of their vehicles? If it wasn't for a certain must have radio station that I like to listen to, I wouldn't even have XM/Sirius radio anymore. The reason is that they charge me for each and every radio I own but I can't take my car radio with me, nor do I like the octopus like wiring scheme to take a home XM radio to put into a car.

HD radio, on the other hand, is "broadcast" radio, meaning that no subscription is required, anyone and everyone with an HD equipped radio can hear, and because HD radio can also listen to ALL non-HD content, the radios would never be obsoleted even if no HD radio towers existed in your area. Also, because the broadcast radio band is completely govered by the FCC, there may come a time when there is not enough bandwidth is available to cover demand. On FM, there must be a 200kHz span between stations and with 20mHz of available FM band radio bandwidth, there is the potential for 100 stations to coexist if every possible spot is filled. On AM, there is only 1.07mHz of bandwidth (1070khz). Potentially, there exists 107 slots in 10khz increments but anyone that has listened to AM knows that it is far more "wide-band" than FM which is more selective but you would expect that being a much higher frequency and far greater space between stations (200khz as opposed to only 10khz). Also, because AM radio by it's very nature (lower frequency) can travel far greater distances than FM, the granting of stations is much more stingy in an effort to avoid cross station interference. For this reason, I do believe that HD radio benefits AM far more th an FM. Now as far as the benefits go, HD radio allows AM to be broadcast in Stereo and also allows multiple stations on the same station. Confusing? Much like today's digital TV broadcast stations, you can tune to, for example, 680kHz and there might be 680-1, 680-2, 680-3 stations being simultaneously broadcast using the same frequency where only 1 station originally hogged up the entire bandwidth. To me, because this technology exists, I believe it's only a matter of time before the FCC would mandate greater bandwidth usage efficiency. Maybe not today, or maybe not this decade. But from what I've seen in how our country and technology has grown in the past 3 decades, it won't be long and while it might not be exactly the "HD-radio" we see today, there is bound to be some similar form of greater efficiency broadcast technology.
 

oldskool69

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I know how it all works, I'm speaking from a marketing perspective. I can give a first hand example because I have lot's of youth and twenty/early thity somethings in my life let alone the 20, 15,and 14 year old that I am morally and fiscally responsible for along with my wife. :lol:

Like TV (i.e. WBRC Fox 6 here has 6.1 whatever, and another band which is "Bounce TV" which also is free over the air.) you can have all these stations. And I do radio broadcast on occasion with WYDE 101.1 The Source. WYDE along with it's sister staions broadcast HD. But if you speak to their marketing department, they will tell you that HD Radio is limited by the mere fact that the internet and wireless has grown much faster, not to mention that the FCC is giving up spectrum to accomodate wireless bandwith and data needs. That's where the priority is. Thus like many stations they stream and make sure they have the best streaming experience possible. And with the advent of wifi capable (via your carrier or match phone to car stereo with bluetooth) car radios why would you want HD Radio which as you mentioned is federally regulated and controlled? I've used my phone to stream Neo-Soul Cafe via bluetooth in my car which is commercial free (donor supported), has no terrestrial station, and is stutter free, crisp and clear rolling down the highway. Tell me how HD radio can beat that? And there's a bunch more to choose from. :-)

Look at todays generation...

Spotify
iHeart Radio
Napster Radio

And many others that like over the air broadcasts are FREE...

The Buggles got it sort of right with "Video Killed The Radio Star"...but no one had video in their cars or the park, and risked electrocution poolside if not using batteries. And radio lived on. And radio will live on. And it will go HD...but when you can't customize, your stations, see history of, see upcoming and build playlists, respond to surveys, and other marketing yadda yadda, and content this generation expects what good is it? They are already conditioned. Guys like you and me are the dinosaurs. The ones coming up fully excpect to setup and log in to their fave stations on their all world smart devices. Heck, I do it...

Talk radio, which the aformentioned WYDE is...are the ones going that route. And other than talk radio, there'll be a bunch of public information, or other news/weather broadcasts. Believe me, if we didn't have the wireless capabilities we have today which are STRONGLY supported by all the major broadband providers and carriers. HD Radio would have been way more widespread by now. This is why the Government now wants to gain control of the web and regulate it in the same way the FCC does everything else.
 

Ghettoboom767

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I love my Sirius/XM Delphi true portable Boombox,it sounds great!! Has line-In/Aux.and line out.I run it through my home stereo and I can carry it anywhere!
I also have XM in my Camaro,beautiful sound and I believe the satellite stations are broadcast I'm HD.
Love the XM Boombox!!:)
 
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